I need advice: Me and I S.O. Are going to be having our second child next month, but my S.O. Wants to go on an Amway trip right after I have the baby. Do I have a right to be upset about this? We have a two-year-old already, and I have been out of work for a while with complications in my pregnancy. He started doing Amway as a way to make extra money but honestly it seems like he’s just spending more money on their products and trips than anything. His “partners” tell him I am just unsupportive and that he will make so much money to prove me wrong. And I tried being supportive even though I have has negative experiences with this company and don’t believe in what they believe in. I have shown him countless articles of people telling their Amway stories in detail, saying it was a cult and took all their money. But he won’t listen to me, now he wants to go out of town for their summit, and at first, I was okay with it Because it seemed like hey even if he’s wasting his money, at least he’s happy until he told me that it was just two weeks after my due date. Background: I don’t want to be induced this time; I want to go into labor naturally, so there’s no telling when I will actually have the baby. I could be just going into labor when this trip occurs, and he’s going to leave me alone to birth a baby and take care of a two-year-old by myself for this trip? We are fighting like crazy about this, and honestly, I feel like if he goes on this trip that I will be throwing him out when he comes home ( we live in my family home that’s been in my family for over 100 years.), this is on top of times of drunken stupidity and forgiving him for cheating and leaving me with our first son for an 18-year-old girl. I’m at a loss. Should I just let it go and try to make the family work? Or do I hold my ground and make him choose between his family and Amway?
The stress is not worth it. If this man is willing to dip out within weeks of your baby’s due date for any reason, it speaks volumes about his understanding of being a parent and a spouse. It seems as though he expects everything to revolve around his plans, and that is just not how a family works. It is supposed to be together, and while there is give and take, you are not in a position to give here. You are giving everything you have to bring this life into the world, so his duty is to help YOU in this time. Not the other way around. Hope this finds a peaceful resolution, even if that means separation has to happen. You and your babies deserve peace.
If he cheated with the first child who is only TWO and is now knowingly and willingly leaving you high and dry postpartum with a newborn and a toddler, he’s not worth the headache.
It may also be possible that Amway is not COMPLETELY to blame. Could he be tricking his money on a side chick in addition to being suckered by Amway?
Either way, let him go on his trip with all of his wardrobe and personal items. Change the locks and your phone numbers as soon as he leaves and start the ball rolling on separation. Let karma handle him and you focus on your children’s needs.
Help a mama out and respond anonymously on our forum. My spouse wants to go on a trip after our baby is born: Do I have a right to be upset?
You should have thrown him out for cheating the first time
Yes you need to bond the baby needs this too her is selfish
You already know ur answer. Turn the page! Good luck
Cheats, leaving you alone, drunken stupidity…choosing something over you around your due date. Girl, run. Don’t walk 🤌🏽✌🏽
Seriously? Kick him to the curb.
He should be with his family. Ultimatum time either the trip or family if he says you are being selfish there is ur answer let him leave have your support around u and do u mama when he gets back tell him his shit is outside and he can use all the money he is making to start over.
Yea…he would of been gone once I found out he was cheating. Get rid of him
My ex husband worked for amway for a short time he didnt make any money at it to me that whole company is a scam
Um. Tell him bye and change the locks. Good grief.
Tell him to hit the road and don’t come back. What a loser
Amway is a pyramid scheme. He will only make the money if he recruits ppl in under him. Dad needs to baby bond too. If he goes on his trip who can come help you?
The trip would absolutely be a deal breaker. If he goes, tell him to make other arrangements for a place to live upon return.
If he chooses to forgo the trip, try to encourage him in finding an online sales job in which he is home bonding with his family, who needs him.
NO job should ever come “between” your family & one that promotes such a thing is a place to run from, fast!
PLEASE let his ass go.
If you’re not a priority in his life, why is he even in your life?
If he leaves you, hire movers to pack his shit and change the locks. Money well spent after what he’s already been sucked into with this MLM Amway bs. It sounds like MLM but OK
Make him choose. If he chooses wrong pack his shit and change the locks. You’ll make it work. Don’t even think you need him at this point. Because you don’t. Recently left my baby’s father and I better off than I was with him in my life. I let him see my kiddo and take her for a few days a week but I don’t have to deal with his infidelities and financial burden. Girl. Let. Him. Go. IF he is not willing to compromise for you. He will never change.
If you have to make him choose between some company and his family - he’s already made his choice.
Hold your ground and make him choose family or amway! Amway is a scam. All you do is end up buying expensive products and you never actually make money. Your friends and family will also hate you eventually for always bothering them with it. So his family should be number one and an actual job to support his family, not scamway!
Don’t wait, boot him now.
They have actual revival meetings, like a cult. Boot him out the door.
Leave him now. Concentrate on your two precious babies. He does not sound like a good dad or good husband. You and those babies deserve better.
Girl wtf are you doing?
Get him out of your home now. He’s made his choices clear and you and those kid will never be his priority.
It amazes me that people let their spouses treat them like a 2nd option. No. This isn’t a relationship anyway, you’ll be less stressed with his drama gone
There’s no money to be made in MLM. Run
It’s a big scam. Put your foot down.
If he chooses a Mlm rather than his wife and child than should answer you question!
I think he has already chosen. At least you won’t have lawyer fees.
He sounds horrible to be quite honest. You should be the one getting supported right now with a risky pregnancy
Girl you’re with a boy, not a man.
You already know he’s worthless with what he’s done and what he’s wanting to do.
Amway and all MLM companies are scams 100%.
He’s made his choice if he’s not putting you and the babies first.
No f-ing way. He needs to stay home and help out. You just have birth to a human and he needs to help with whatever needs to be done and that doesn’t include going on a trip
They told my X the same spend to earn an she is holding you back soppose to be Christian based nope its not its a money pyramid scheme so the higher up make profit off him its not worth it an the X is still amway an he still does the trips an all the big grand hotels they rent out for weekend show
Yep its a waste
I don’t know of anyone who made money out of amway, know a lot of people who thought they would make it big too
I agree with these gals that are telling you to kick him to the damn curb. Being drunk and stupid and cheating is bull crap. He needs to think about you and the family instead of this “cult” if he can’t then kick him to the curb. He is showing you that you are becoming second best. I learned 6 months ago from my first born you need rest and care after the baby is born. He obviously doesn’t care about that. Tell him to pack his crap and take his little 18 year fling with him
Make him choose. That’s some BS and I’d be throwing his ass out too
Man amway… Cant believe that it is still around. It almost ruined my family back in the mid 90s. And it will ruin you.
Walk away from him. He clearly isn’t going to be there for you or your little ones.
He already chose Amway.
You should of already got rid of him .
I am Soo sorry you are going through this! Tell him to run to the hills!!! Amway is a cult, my husband got involved with them, when i don’t supported him because i also had a newborn at that time and our son had special needs, they started telling him to divorce me, he doesn’t needed a women that doesn’t support him. They are so machistas and brainwash them so bad, it will ruin not only your finances but your relationship too.
I would tell him it’s either you or Amway. The people in it will tell him that you are not supportive and toxic and it will continue like that until he gets out of it.
Love shouldn’t make you choose.
Is it a uk thing? Sorry just never heard of it so dont really know. I am in the U.S…
He can make a lot of money with them if he’s serious about it. A friend of mine makes 6 figures
Umm absolutely not.
And I wouldn’t invest (waste) one more cent in amway either!!
Put your foot down.
Sending you hugs
Do you have a friend or family member to help you through birth.
I understand your pain and the hard choices you have to make.
God has blessed you with 2 bubs. It is hard but mumma you have got this.
Perhaps some time seperated will allow you both to find what is truly important to you.
You deserve to be someone’s number 1.
I’m here to chat if you’d like a friend to talk to.
You are in my prayers hun
Mlms are like cults…
I thought that that company went out the door years ago dont get sucked in there you will lose your friends and family over that its not worth it
Ummm bye. Spouses should have different interests, but those shouldn’t interfere with supporting each other. Leaving you alone to give birth and taking care of both kids after just giving birth is crazy disrespectful. You deserve a partner.
They don’t call it scam-way for no reason dear. Not one person living hasn’t heard of this “business”.
If he doesn’t wanna be there for the birth of his second born child, that says enough. You need nobody else’s opinion. Throw him out and move on honey, he’s never gonna grow up.
Hold your ground mama. Let the man go. He’s proven several times who he is and that he won’t change. Good luck. Sending you love and support.
I would give him an ultimatum. If he goes on his dumb trip he better pack all his shit cause the locks will be changed when he gets back
If he doesn’t want to be there, LET HIM GO. You’re honestly better off without him.
I would tell him to start his trip early and leave now! I wouldn’t want some one there that doesn’t want to be there. Plain and simple.
Tell him to go now. He’s not considering your family at all. What a numpty.
Wtf you must have low self-esteem if you’re still around after he left you for an 18-year-old.
Sounds like he’s caught up in a pyramid scheme.
He’s already made a choice and it wasn’t your family
He’s already choosing that over you and your kids not to mention the second child isn’t even born yet and he has already shown in the past where he sits when he cheated and picked some girl over you and your son before hand. Sadly you guys aren’t his priority he’s selfish and is only thinking of his self constantly from what you’ve posted here and my heart goes out to you no one deserve to go through this.
It’s really up to u not anyone else to make the decision sounds like he’s selfish and a loser but if having him around makes your life easier keep him around if having him around make your life worse than let him go and change the locks
why stay with him after cheating on you AND leaving you and your baby for an 18yo girl?
You and your children deserve much more than this cheating prick can give you!
Tell him to choose what’s most important to him, the pyramid scheme trip or his family. If he picks the trip, make sure to tell him he will need to find other living arrangements for when he comes back.
You have every right to be upset- I don’t understand on what planet he thinks it’s okay to go on an optional trip two weeks after you have a baby - You will still be recovering, and could use all the help you can get. Going from 1 to 2 kids is a big change. This is his baby too! I’m sorry you are going through this. Hold your ground!
And you’re still with him? Why?
Anyway is a scam we got sucked into it but it’s a triangle you have to keep getting people to sign up to make money in order for you to make money… BIG SCAM!!!
Tell him to go now. Pull the band-aid off.
Leave him. This relationship is toxic. Not good for you, your unborn child or your child.
Kick him to the curb!!!
Let him go,its seems like you took care of your first kid by yourself and even if he stays he doesn’t seem like much help from what you stated. Why bring an added fight into the equation.
Let him do whatever he wants, he is his own person. His actions will prove how he wants to treat you, and you decide where you draw the line. You can’t make a man stay, but you can set your boundaries and choose whether he deserves to stay.
If something is bad enough to be banned in the US he shouldn’t be messing with it. He definitely shouldn’t be putting it before you and yalls babies.
Girl the moment he cheated would have been when that mf kicked rocks
What a jackass!!! They’re are real men that are deployed that would give anything to be home with their newborns and can’t be. This guy wants to go on a party trip. Amway is a joke.
I don’t even know you and I’m so angry for you. After all he’s already done to you and you’ve stayed. He shouldn’t even be considering this trip. If he goes you need to stand your ground and tell him not to come back. Also please make sure you have separate accounts so he doesn’t spend all your money and leave you with nothing.
I get everyone who says leave him, but on the other hand you have repeatedly chosen your life as it is right now, you’ve allowed him to get away with stuff, you taking him back is forgiving him for the past so if you truly love him and look past all the bad in the past, then stop bringing it up. He’s a grown man and will make his own choices and you cannot change that. If it bugs you, leave, and stop giving him chance after chance to walk all over you, because at the end of the day, you have given him that power. So the choice is, either accept it, or leave! He’s shown he isnt going to change, a real man that loves you will choose you, without being given an ultimatum.
I think deep down you know EXACTLY what you need to do
babyyyy…… no. this is a horrible situation. i’m so sorry.
Make his ass choose or let him go and leave while he’s gone.
You know he’s a dumb ass and you’ve stayed by his side. You need him to get his head out of his ass and focus on his family and not any group that’s trying to make you out to be a bad guy. If you are not married than kicking him out is going to be better. I get he thinks that this is a get Rich quick thing but he’s going be a father and you need him to help you. You are not asking to choose between anything. It’s not a career that is going to shrivel if he has to be a parent and partner for a little while. If he can’t figure out what he’s supposed to do than he’s telling you where you rank in the important things that matter to him . Good luck
Amway is a giant pyramid scheme. Your husband is a cheater. This man is weak! Kick him out now, for your own sanity and your wallet!
That company is a rip off it has a lot of people snowed . They’re ten cent million dollars wannabe. You spend a great bit of money and make maby, three cents on a dollar.
If he wants extra money, find a weakly paying job part time.
That amway, company is not it
If he’s not careful hell put you all in bankruptcy
He should be there for you for babies birth. Hoping you have extended family that can help. But in the end if he doesnt to be there he wont. Dont argue over it. Your baby and you more important. Stress is no good to you both atm.
Give him a ultimatum and if he chooses Amway and continues to argue about it kick his ass to the curb and do for right for you and your kids mama !
Wow that story just kept getting worse. Amway is a terrible company that takes advantage of people. I would tell him if he goes on the trip not to come back.
You shouldn’t have ultimatums in a healthy relationship. It sounds like he’s selfish. Probably a narcissist. If you’re gonna do it by yourself…then you might as well be by yourself.
MLM schemes are a horrible way to make money and they make people into something they aren’t. Run … run fast. Look at the Watts family. Shanann ran her family into so much debt and her mental health suffered. She did the ultimate when she took her daughters from her husband causing her to lose her life as well. Run.
Nah you just big dumb honey throw that man in the dumpster
Give this guy the boot.
He’s cheating on you again. Tell him you hope he makes a lot of money with Amway so he can pay you child support.
You said it yourself, you want him to be happy… so let him be happy but chase after your happiness too. It’s the selfishness for me. Going on a trip after you gave life? Tuhhh. AND leaving you with a toddler on top of that? Girl…
Pack his shit and send him on to the Amway sis, you had me sold when he cheated and left you for a 18 yo. That man will only disrespect you as much as you allow.
Yup, sounds like he’s cheating again and the Amway is an excuse
Yikes, sounds like he makes lots of terrible choices. I’d be mad as hell too, he’s definitely got his priorities all wrong. He wants to leave before you even give birth?!? No way, super insane. I’m glad you’re already considering throwing him out. I think you’ve got the right idea.
Wow this just kept getting worse and worse! I was going to say that he’s an AH for going on the trip at that time but idk if I’d end the marriage over it but then you went on to say how he cheated and left ya’ll for a teenager?! Ohhhhh HELL no. You should have already left after that and not given him a second chance! He absolutely would not be welcome back in my house after coming back from that trip