You may recall, back in 2019, when a mom identified as Nichole Schubert was cleaning around her home and stumbled on her son’s journal. Inside the journal were plans that revealed how he planned to murder not only her but a plan to attack his high school as well.
At the time, Schubert’s son was a 17-year-old senior in Washington state. It was after discovering the journal that the mom made the decision to involve police.
Remember the Mom Who Turned Her Own Son In After Finding His School Shooting Threats, She’s Speaking Out Now
Now, in an interview with Good Morning America, Schubert is speaking out how what she first saw written inside the journal and how she felt in that immediate moment.
As the mom admitted, “it was very descriptive. It was just heartbreaking,” she said of how she felt after making the discovery. “I didn’t, I didn’t really want to know the details.”
And although Schubert ultimately did what she had to do, it wasn’t easy for her to involve law enforcement. “Your first instinct is, as a parent, is to protect your child. But at that point, I felt like if he is actually going to do these things, he would be safer in jail.”
“That’s my child, I, I gave birth to him, you know. It hurts a lot. It still hurts,” Schubert continued, adding that at that point, “it wasn’t just about me and him,” anymore.
“It was about a whole school — hundreds of people, hundreds of kids, children.” And while it was a difficult call to make, it’s not one she regrets. “I believe I saved lives.”
Even if it was just one life she saved by notifying the police that day, Schubert said “it’s worth it.”
You see, it wasn’t just the journal Schubert found. As she told police, she had also found what she believed to be a homemade pipe bomb in her son’s room in the past.
Her son was arrested and pleaded guilty to felony charges of threatening to bomb or injure property and to misdemeanors for harassment. However, he maintains that the journal his mother found did not contain valid threats but rather they were writing of fantasy.
Now, as mass shootings continue to plague the United States, Schubert has a message for other parents, encouraging them to stay in their child’s business.
“Stay in their business. Even if they don’t like it. They’re not going to like it. But as parents, it’s our job to know what our kids are doing. Just be aware and watch for signs. Kids will normally tell you by their actions when something is wrong.”
She continued, adding, “Obviously, we can’t control our children’s actions all the time. Who can? But there are signs that something’s not right, something’s, you know, why is he acting weird? Why? Why is he so to himself? I was in his room, you know? What are you doing? Where are you going? All the time. And he hated it. But he’s alive. And everyone’s alive and he’s not in jail.”
However, while Schubert admits parents can’t control their kids 100 percent of the time, she does believe some parents are responsible to an extent when their children commit heinous crimes such as mass shootings.
Now, her son is out of jail, completed a stint in a rehabilitation center, and completed several community service hours. He is working and has hopes of going to college. He hasn’t been in trouble with the law since, Good Morning America reports.
“He’s my child. I love him unconditionally. I’ll always be there for him. I’ll always love him no matter what he does.”
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